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Díli, 15 fev (Lusa) -- O Presidente de Timor-Leste, José Ramos-Horta, que se encontra de visita ao Médio Oriente, promulgou o Orçamento Geral do Estado antes de se ausentar, após parecer favorável do Tribunal de Recurso, revelou hoje a Presidência.
Ramos-Horta pediu ao Supremo Tribunal de Recurso a apreciação da constitucionalidade da Lei do Orçamento para 2011.
Em causa estavam a concentração de verbas em dois novos fundos controlados pelo Primeiro-ministro, Xanana Gusmão, e as alterações feitas pelo Parlamento durante a discussão na especialidade, que se traduziram num aumento do OGE, de 985 milhões de dólares (cerca de 718 milhões de euros) para 1,3 mil milhões de dólares (963 milhões de euros).
Esse aumento obriga a uma transferência de 321 milhões de dólares (235 milhões de euros) do Fundo Petrolífero de Timor-Leste, ultrapassando o rendimento sustentável estimado daquele fundo soberano, cuja fundamentação o Presidente duvidou ser suficiente.
Face ao parecer favorável do Supremo Tribunal, José Ramos-Horta promulgou o OGE antes da sua partida para o Médio Oriente, justificando que "a posição do Governo foi totalmente legal e assente na Constituição e as alterações feitas pelo Parlamento foram legais".
Deixou, no entanto, uma recomendação ao Primeiro-ministro e ao Governo, para garantirem a boa gestão dos dinheiros públicos e evitarem situações que possam denegrir a imagem do país.
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Díli, 15 fev (Lusa) -- O Presidente de Timor-Leste, José Ramos-Horta, que se encontra de visita ao Médio Oriente, promulgou o Orçamento Geral do Estado antes de se ausentar, após parecer favorável do Tribunal de Recurso, revelou hoje a Presidência.
Ramos-Horta pediu ao Supremo Tribunal de Recurso a apreciação da constitucionalidade da Lei do Orçamento para 2011.
Em causa estavam a concentração de verbas em dois novos fundos controlados pelo Primeiro-ministro, Xanana Gusmão, e as alterações feitas pelo Parlamento durante a discussão na especialidade, que se traduziram num aumento do OGE, de 985 milhões de dólares (cerca de 718 milhões de euros) para 1,3 mil milhões de dólares (963 milhões de euros).
Esse aumento obriga a uma transferência de 321 milhões de dólares (235 milhões de euros) do Fundo Petrolífero de Timor-Leste, ultrapassando o rendimento sustentável estimado daquele fundo soberano, cuja fundamentação o Presidente duvidou ser suficiente.
Face ao parecer favorável do Supremo Tribunal, José Ramos-Horta promulgou o OGE antes da sua partida para o Médio Oriente, justificando que "a posição do Governo foi totalmente legal e assente na Constituição e as alterações feitas pelo Parlamento foram legais".
Deixou, no entanto, uma recomendação ao Primeiro-ministro e ao Governo, para garantirem a boa gestão dos dinheiros públicos e evitarem situações que possam denegrir a imagem do país.
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18 comentários:
Uhhhhhhhhhhh duvidamos que isto seja transparente senhor presidente!
There is no need to make lot of funny comments as the state budget has been approved. You will only stay in uncertain thinking if you force yourself to make stupid speech all the time.
Piss...........bro
Doutor Mari Alkatiri, Doutor Arsenio Bano no Doutor Jose Teixeira LAHATENE INTERPRETA Constituicao no Lei. Sira interpreta tuir sira nia GOSTO, INTERESSE PRIVADO NO PARTIDO. Iha 2002, sira copia deit constituicao Portugal nian, maibe sira LA CUMPRIENDE NIA CONTEXTO KA CONTEUDO artigo por artigo. Neduni ita lalika hakfodak hanesan acontese dadaun ho OGE 2011. Uluk mos, depois eleicao 2007, sira ulun toos atu kaer ukun mesmo ho 29% de votos. Se PR Horta husu sira governa iha 2007, FULAN 2 KA 3 DEIT COM CERTEZA MONU KEDAS, tamba AMP mak Maioria iha Parlamento SEI VOTA CONTRA SIRA NIA PROGRAMA. Depois de consulta ho Assesor Juridico sira, PR Horta husu AMP atu forma governo baseia ba constituicao. Neduni, Doutor nain 3 Fretilin Radical nee afinal lahatene interpreta constituicao no lei.Sira tenki ba estuda tan lai, lalika mai lohi ami. Ami povo aileba hatene liu imi. Keta mehi ami atu vota ba imi iha elisaun mai 2012.
FRETILIN RADIKAL mesak EUTIPID deit... hare la hatenen interpreta lei, ba toba tiha.
Rubi-Talo
"There is no need to make lot of funny comments as the state budget has been approved."
You are missing the point. The PR said that you use the money TRANSPARENTLY which is raised doubt in the anonymous (03:28, 16 Feb 11)'s mind. We know where do you come from but that is the nature of politics of hide head in the sand isn't it.
Piss.......bro
Hi bro,
We are debating an important issue, so please don't be annoying bro. This is not the time to find out where I come from or where you want to go to. The most important thing is that the budget is unconstitutional according decision made by the court. What is more, the President himself has promulgated it. This shows the biggest winning of the AMP's government toward the opposition/ Fretilin.
The court decision is regarded as a terrible punch on opposition political campaign in the last 4 years since its government was ruled out through people's power in 2006.
Meanwhile, the word TRANSPARENTLY as stated by the president is something normal in a democratic nation such as Timor Leste. There is nothing wrong with the word. It can be seen as a "moral message" for the AMP government to utilize the financial budget in a proper way. So, this is all about.
I do appreciate your comments above, but on the other hand, I am questioned your expression of commenting on others opinion.
Thanks and piss ,,...bro
Doutor Mari Alkitiri dehan Decisaun TR nee LA JUSTO. Tribunal Recurso hakotu decisaun ne JUSTO TUIR CONSTITUISAUN NO LEI, laos tuir Dr. Mari nia HAKARAK, INTERESSE PESSOAL KA PARTIDO. Ita bot hanesan eis PM no SG Partido Fretilin, tuir lolos TENKI HATUDU ULUK EXEMPLO DIAK BA POVO HODI CUMPRI CONSTITUISAUN NO LEI, HAKRUK BA DECISAUN ORGAO SOBERANO JUDICIAL. Oinsa ita bot hanesan lider ida husu povo atu cumpri Constituisaun no Lei, mas ita bot rasik LAKOI cumpri? Ita ema, moris iha sistema nia laran, nasaun i governo ida iha regra atu ema hot-hotu cumpri no bele halo progresso no moris hakmatek hanesan familia bot ida.
Se ita bot CONSIDERA NASAUN NE hanesan ita bot nia COMPANHIA ATU LIVRE HALO BUAT HOTU CONFORME HAKARAK, DIAK LIU BA HELA IHA FULAN. IHA NEBA EMA IDA LA MANDA ITA BOT, LA CHATEIA ITA BOT, LA HIRUS ITA BOT, LA DERROTA ITA BOT. DR. Mari MAK MANANG BORONG HOTU : HAN, HEMU, PASIAR, TOBA, HALO CAMPANHA MESAK, MANANG MESAK, SAI PRESIDENTE DA REPUBLICA , SAI PRIMEIRO MINISTRO FULAN NIAN, MINISTRO DE RECURSOS NATURAIS FULAN NIAN. ETC.
PR Horta CUMPRI ona Decisaun Tribunal Recurso hodi PROMULGA OGE 2011. Ita bot LAIHA ONA RAZAUN hodi buka MANEIRAS OIN-OIN atu CONTRA decisaun TR no cria CONFUSAUN iha Estado, Governo no Povo nia let. AMI POVO KIIK MATAN MOS ONA HO ITA BOT NIA PROPAGANDA BARATA, ALEGASAUN SEM PROVAS, NO CAMPANHA BARATA. DIAK LIU ITA BOT CUMPRI ONA DECISAUN TRIBUNAL RECURSO NO HO ATEN BARANI RECONHECE ITA BOT NIA SALA BA POVO LIU HUSI RADIO NO TELEVISAUN.
AMI POVO KIIK SEI LA VOTA BA FRETILIN RADICAL IHA ELEISAUN PRESIDENCIAL NO LEGISLATIVA 2012.
FRETILIN beik. kualidade nune.. mak bele UKUN ne.. itabele mate....
Gerasaun FOUN, Matan Moris Ba !
Hau, bolu Maluk TIMOR-OAN tomak,liu-liu Gerasaun foun sira..
Hare, buka malun, tur hamutuk, fo hanoin/pendapat ba malu...tempu lao lais tebes...
ita nia Leader sira, katuas ba dadauk, sira buka aproveita ita hotu ba sira nia interese...kuidadu ho sira nia MANOBRA politika,..fera dadauk unidade Gerasaun foun,..ita keta matan delek...ita LOUVA PDN,..nudar Partido foun ho gerasaun foun iha rai laran..maibe imi matan moriis ba !
Kuidadu influensia husi HORTA, matan keta dukur, HORTA hetan influensia husi Mari Alkateri..
ami akompanha nafatin PDN..maibe keta halo ita hotu namdoras ba interrese grupo Timor oan nebe mai husi Rai Liur...
identifika di-diak ba...grupo oan ne,..sira joga husi kotuk..manobra ita Sarjana SUPERMIE,...sira tula hela ita, mas..too sira kaer poder ..sira tebe ita doook..
bravo gerasaun foun..
viva partido sira nebe gerasaun foun nian...
husi simpantizante partido ba gerasaun foun..
salam ba imi iha PDN
"This is not the time to find out where I come from or where you want to go to. The most important thing is that the budget is unconstitutional according decision made by the court. What is more, the President himself has promulgated it. This shows the biggest winning of the AMP's government toward the opposition/ Fretilin."
To start with, I think there some misundetanding here. When I said "where you're coming from" I meant that you're one of those embedded in the government to say the least or at upmost you're one of the government supporters. So, as your interpretation is out of context or just another way to run away from the issue. Moreover, there is some confusion (I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IS ON YOUR BEHALF) in what you're saying. You said that "The most important thing is that the budget is unconstitutional according decision made by the court. What is more, the President himself has promulgated it."
Can you clarify to us? If the budget is UNconstitutional then why does the PR want to promulgate an UNconstitutional budget?
It is good to defend certain policies that I think you have won but it come through at it's worst by using to make cheap point.
"The most important thing is that the budget is unconstitutional according decision made by the court. What is more, the President himself has promulgated it. This shows the biggest winning of the AMP's government toward the opposition/ Fretilin."
What a mess are you in? One can presume that you are under scrutiny from your masters to perform well in the merky business of promoting certain policy that is gone wrong or to put more blatantly, to defend a HUGE BUDGET that the vast majority of the East Timorese will not benefit from it. But as you're coming from "the nature of politics of hide head in the sand isn't it".
Piss....bro
Hi bro, it is good to see u again.
Before getting to the point, I would like to clarify a mistake made in my first comment concerning the word" Unconstitutional". The mistake was actually occurred due to the typing, so things sometimes happen out of control. The exact word to replace it is the word " constitutional" or "Legal". Hopefully, you clear with that.
The following sentence is copied from one of yours comments above:
"But as you're coming from "the nature of politics of hide head in the sand isn't it".
Hi bro, look at what you've just said. As you are aware, I'm not a politician or a member of the AMP's government but I am just a simple man (I am living in Indonesia). Politicians are those who like bulling people wit false promeses, rising false issues, changing their words within minutes, as well as trying to attack genuine thinking from simple people like myself. You can be categorized into this group of bunch people with the nature of hiding head in the sands.
You also said;
"What a mess are you in?" and "promoting certain policy that is gone wrong or to put more blatantly, to defend a HUGE BUDGET that the vast majority of the East Timorese will not benefit from it."
Well, this is not true but vice-versa. We are in a debating process,so,what I've argued on my first comment was a response to what you were commenting on. Take into consideration that I'm not in a mess, however, is in a debating process in which try to argue against "the Cheap Propaganda" you are doing here in this blog. You are actually rising mess or rubbish comments that are absolutely wrong and do not make any sense at all. How can you tell the people that the financial budget won't be used to improve people prosperity? and How can you justify that the Budget won't benefit the East Timoreses while it hasn't been implemented yet?
Putting in your mind that the AMP government has done a lot in improving the people's lives by recuperating the security, sending the IDPs back to their homes, creating specific fund for the veterans/ the clandestine people, the victims of war, the oldest people as well as developing more basic infrastructures around the country. Briefly, ones can argue that your government (the first government) did nothing in a sense of improving the lives of the East Timoreses. What happen was it only knew how to create problems rather than developing Timor Leste and its societies. A very bad example of this was the creation of 2006 crisis by that poor administration. It was happen due to the in-capabilities of the Alktiri's government in responding to challenges occurred at that time. This is a truly fact that cannot be denied.
If you've never been brain washed before, I am absolutely believe that the short explanation above might wash it properly, and could make you aware of the achievements that the Xanana's government has already been doing so far.
Piss.....................bro
Simple Man
Hi Bro,
“You are actually rising mess or rubbish comments that are absolutely wrong and do not make any sense at all. How can you tell the people that the financial budget won't be used to improve people prosperity? and How can you justify that the Budget won't benefit the East Timoreses while it hasn't been implemented yet?”
Before commenting on the above comment I just want to make it clear that I’m not buying the so-called ‘I am just a simple man (I am living in Indonesia)’ for a very simple reason: there is no way to very verify your statement.’
You may think you’ve raised a very good point. However the point is, what you think is very good might for others “actually rising mess or rubbish comments”. This is just a matter of view.
As to your questions above, here are some of the points to refresh your memory lane. The government has been in power for over three years. Since they came to power, every budget year they raised the expenditure for five times over what the previous government had. The budget for the first year was over US$400.000.000 (Four hundred million) raised to over US$700.000.000 (Seven hundred million) and now over US$1.200.000.00 (1.2 billion). These budgets amount to almost three billion USD.
Can you tell me where are these money have gone? Bishop Basilio do Nascimento said very recently (see Tempo Semanal) that the budget is only good if people benefit from it. There are many reports in the Timorese news that roads, bridges and buildings in a state of disrepair. The vast majority of the population are living under the poverty line! Ministers, their families and friends are getting rich and richer by day! Are these what you call ‘improve people prosperity?’ If that is prosperity for you then, the Real Prosperity for the vast majority of timorese remain a dream because Prosperity keeps eluding from them.
“…the AMP government has done a lot in improving the people's lives by recuperating the security, sending the IDPs back to their homes, creating specific fund for the veterans/the clandestine people, the victims of war, the oldest people as well as developing more basic infrastructures around the country.”
You seem to have a VERY SELECTIVE memory. You DO remember few things but ‘forget’ that ‘specific fund for the veterans/the clandestine people, the victims of war, the oldest people as well as developing more basic infrastructures…’ stems from the previous government. The current government simply implemented it. As for IDPs, I wonder who created that mess in first place! If you make a mess then you tide them up, as simple as that my dear! So after all these budgets, year after years, one expect a small improvement in people’s lives.
Last but not least, I raised my doubts about the government spending it transparently is because after three years, as any sensible person would now, nothing has changed so far. As such my doubts will remain: seeing is believing.
Piss……… bro
“A very bad example of this was the creation of 2006 crisis by that poor administration. It was happen due to the in-capabilities of the Alktiri's government in responding to challenges occurred at that time. This is a truly fact that cannot be denied.”
I would agree with you that there were challenges. However, any government that comes after the Alkatiri’s government must outdo its predecessor. Alkatiri set the precedent of taking up the most difficult task in setting up the very basic structure which you CONVENIENTLY OVERLOOKED to switch your agenda. You also CONVENIENTLY omitted to mention the budget available to Alkatiri’s government at that time and the Petroleum Fund that was set up at that time. This government is about to destroy under no time the fund set up!
Yes! there were a lot of challenges which with small budget Alkatiri’s government try to meet. Yes, there were a lot of youth unemployment at that time BUT SO as today. In 2006 there were reports saying that after four years of independence, the daily income of THE VAST MAJORITY was US$0.50cents (fifthy cents). That was with an annual budget of US$175.000.000. As recent as last year, there were reports saying that the daily income of the VAST MAJORITY of the population is US$0.50cents (fifthy cents) despite AMP governments budget of almost UD$1 billion. Where is the ‘prosperity’? If that is prosperity than Ministers and their cronies are living in HEAVEN!
I’m a bit surprise that you still burry your head in the sand by saying that the crisis was created by Alkatiri. Possibly almost everyone in the country agree that ‘lack of action’ on Alkatiri’s behalf contributed to the crisis BUT it is DESINGENIOUS to say that the VAST majority of the current government were innocent. It is also a fact that they part of the plot to create havoc. Moreover, the so-called ‘state coup’ of the February 11, 2008 was designed to undermine FRETILIN, which call AMP government a ‘de facto’, but NO ONE in the country believed it. So you’re better advised to stay with the budget and look at the statistics, reports and interviews, in another words, on the current affairs that raise concerns of the people and form an informed opinion rather than defending an indefensible policy. Furthermore, if in the last three years they have not done anything, I DOUBT that they will do better this year. What we will see is more ministers, families and cronies getting richer and richer. Hence, my continuous doubts: seeing is believing.
All in all, to turn such a blind eye to the POVERTY that sweeping the country, Xanana must have washed your brain extremely well
Piss…… bro
"All in all, to turn such a blind eye to the POVERTY that sweeping the country, Xanana must have washed your brain extremely well."
Piss......bro got it righ. The real Piss.... bro, the so-called 'simple man' is on the ran!
Hi bro,
We are debating an important issue, so please don't be annoying bro. This is not the time to find out where I come from or where you want to go to. The most important thing is that the budget is constitutional according decision made by the court. What is more, the President himself has promulgated it. This shows the biggest winning of the AMP's government toward the opposition/ Fretilin.
The court decision is regarded as a terrible punch on opposition political campaign in the last 4 years since its government was ruled out through people's power in 2006.
Meanwhile, the word TRANSPARENTLY as stated by the president is something normal in a democratic nation such as Timor Leste. There is nothing wrong with the word. It can be seen as a "moral message" for the AMP government to utilize the financial budget in a proper way. So, this is all about.
I do appreciate your comments above, but on the other hand, I am questioned your expression of commenting on others opinion.
Simple man
There is no need to continue debating with you because you've been making lots of stupid mess and funny comments. You will only stay in uncertain thinking if you force yourself to bull people and make stupid speech all the time.
Just get lost and piss off.......
"There is no need to continue debating with you because you've been making lots of stupid mess and funny comments."
It's a sign that you have lost the argument and there is no way that you can substantiate your claim.
So keep hide your head in the sand and go on selling the rubbish to the people as you're doing now. One thig is for certain, day by day, people cannot afford to buy rice - your claim of prosperity.
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