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Phillip Hudson in Jakarta - Herald Sun - November 03
JULIA Gillard has left open the option of giving money to Australias neighbours to help meet the cost of being part of her East Timor Solution.
As two more boats carrying 144 people were intercepted off Christmas Island, Ms Gillard met with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in Jakarta to discuss people smuggling.
This year 114 boats carrying more than 5700 people have arrived and Ms Gillard wants to build a processing centre in East Timor as part of a regional plan to fight people smuggling.
Dr Yudhoyono said Indonesia was “open” to being part of Ms Gillard’s plan but wanted to discuss it “in depth”.
He suggested it be examined at a formal meeting early next year under the so-called Bali Process which is jointly chaired by Australia and Indonesia.
“(This would) ensure that the regional processing centre is a proper way in improving the effectiveness in our regional co-operation in dealing with people smuggling,” Dr Yudhoyono said.
“Indonesia is open to that but we have to discuss in depth to ensure once again that this is a solution to our regional problems.”
On Monday, Malaysia said it was interested in the idea but wanted to know what the implications were for regional policy and what costs it would face.
Ms Gillard said Australia already provided resources and assistance to help countries in the region fight people smuggling and kept open the option of spending more.
“As we engage in dialogue about this proposal, obviously we are open to working further with our regional neighbours on it,” she said.
“We already spend to deal with people smuggling…on expenditure matters I always think it’s best not to speculate, it’s best to work through on very detailed propositions.”
“If there is a better way through a regional protection framework and regional processing centre to deploy those resources then of course we will work through on that.”
Ms Gillard also met Indonesian MPs to try and encourage them to pass legislation to toughen Indonesia’s people smuggling penalties.
While Ms Gillard held official talks, her partner Tim Mathieson, went for a walk in the mid-morning Jakarta heat, accompanied by half a dozen fully suited bodyguards. Later he attended the official presidential lunch.
In central Jakarta there was a large billboard featuring a smiling photo of Ms Gillard and Dr Yudhoyono.
Ms Gillard was front page news in Indonesia with the Jakarta Post newspaper carrying the headline “SBY warns Australia ahead of meeting”.
It said Dr Yudhoyono had warned Australia to “stay away” from raising human rights concerns about a video showing the Indonesian military allegedly torturing Papuans.
Ms Gillard did raise the matter and said she was concerned about human rights abuses but accepted Dr Yudhoyono had already ordered an investigation and wanted prosecutions.
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Phillip Hudson in Jakarta - Herald Sun - November 03
JULIA Gillard has left open the option of giving money to Australias neighbours to help meet the cost of being part of her East Timor Solution.
As two more boats carrying 144 people were intercepted off Christmas Island, Ms Gillard met with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in Jakarta to discuss people smuggling.
This year 114 boats carrying more than 5700 people have arrived and Ms Gillard wants to build a processing centre in East Timor as part of a regional plan to fight people smuggling.
Dr Yudhoyono said Indonesia was “open” to being part of Ms Gillard’s plan but wanted to discuss it “in depth”.
He suggested it be examined at a formal meeting early next year under the so-called Bali Process which is jointly chaired by Australia and Indonesia.
“(This would) ensure that the regional processing centre is a proper way in improving the effectiveness in our regional co-operation in dealing with people smuggling,” Dr Yudhoyono said.
“Indonesia is open to that but we have to discuss in depth to ensure once again that this is a solution to our regional problems.”
On Monday, Malaysia said it was interested in the idea but wanted to know what the implications were for regional policy and what costs it would face.
Ms Gillard said Australia already provided resources and assistance to help countries in the region fight people smuggling and kept open the option of spending more.
“As we engage in dialogue about this proposal, obviously we are open to working further with our regional neighbours on it,” she said.
“We already spend to deal with people smuggling…on expenditure matters I always think it’s best not to speculate, it’s best to work through on very detailed propositions.”
“If there is a better way through a regional protection framework and regional processing centre to deploy those resources then of course we will work through on that.”
Ms Gillard also met Indonesian MPs to try and encourage them to pass legislation to toughen Indonesia’s people smuggling penalties.
While Ms Gillard held official talks, her partner Tim Mathieson, went for a walk in the mid-morning Jakarta heat, accompanied by half a dozen fully suited bodyguards. Later he attended the official presidential lunch.
In central Jakarta there was a large billboard featuring a smiling photo of Ms Gillard and Dr Yudhoyono.
Ms Gillard was front page news in Indonesia with the Jakarta Post newspaper carrying the headline “SBY warns Australia ahead of meeting”.
It said Dr Yudhoyono had warned Australia to “stay away” from raising human rights concerns about a video showing the Indonesian military allegedly torturing Papuans.
Ms Gillard did raise the matter and said she was concerned about human rights abuses but accepted Dr Yudhoyono had already ordered an investigation and wanted prosecutions.
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