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ABC Radio Australia , July 8, 2010
Australia's plan to send asylum seekers to East Timor is expected to be on the agenda when East Timor's President Jose Ramos-Horta meets with the Prime Minister, Xanana Gusmao in Dili on Thursday. Any decision rests with the Prime Minister, but the Australian leader Julia Gillard has yet to speak to Mr Gusmao. There is growing opposition to the proposal among East Timor's politicians in Dili.
Presenter: Sara Everingham
Speakers:Arsenio Bano, vice president of East Timor's main opposition party Fretilin;Aderito Hugo da Costa, MP and member of the prime minister Xanana Gusmao's party; Jose Belo, editor of the east Timorese newspaper Tempo Semanal
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SARA EVERINGHAM: More MPs in East Timor are voicing opposition to Julia Gillard's proposal.
Arsenio Bano is the vice president of East Timor's main opposition party Fretilin.
ARSENIO BANO: I don't believe that it is a, it is a good time. I think Timor should reject the proposal, simply because there is no condition in Timor to do that. Economic and social condition we are one of the poorest country in Indonesia.
SARA EVERINGHAM: If Australia was to give East Timor assistance in setting this up would it be possible to actually establish this centre in East Timor?
ARSENIO BANO: I don't think that's a problem with assisting. I think the question is whether Timor wants to be a processing centre or other, other type of Pacific Solution.
I don't think it is appropriate for Timor.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Aderito Hugo da Costa is an MP and member of the prime minister Xanana Gusmao's party.
ADERITO HUGO DA COSTA: Money is not the point, not the issue. The issue is how we have time to look at outside's problem rather than look at our own people's problem that is still very, very serious problems.
SARA EVERINGHAM: There's concern a processing centre for asylum seekers could even inflame social tensions in East Timor.
Arsenio Bano from the Fretilin opposition again.
ARSENIO BANO: We not establish any social welfare as other countries as Australia, even Indonesia. If we want to decide to accept any refugee in Timor we have to be able to offer a same level of services that we offer to our own people, so you can avoid discrimination, you can avoid other such as problems, racism and so on.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Julia Gillard discussed her proposal with East Timor's president Jose Ramos-Horta but she hasn't spoken with the prime minister Xanana Gusmao.
Jose Belo the editor of the east Timorese newspaper Tempo Semanal says that was a mistake.
JOSE BELO: They thought that the president is the one that is going to make the decision, it's wrong, it's actually their executive right of the government to make the decision.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Xanana Gusmao's likely to prove a tougher audience for Julia Gillard.
In recent months he's expressed discontent with Australia on a number of fronts and he's pushed to have gas from the Timor Sea piped to East Timor to be processed onshore has been frustrated.
The Australian company Woodside has opted for a platform floating at sea.
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ABC Radio Australia , July 8, 2010
Australia's plan to send asylum seekers to East Timor is expected to be on the agenda when East Timor's President Jose Ramos-Horta meets with the Prime Minister, Xanana Gusmao in Dili on Thursday. Any decision rests with the Prime Minister, but the Australian leader Julia Gillard has yet to speak to Mr Gusmao. There is growing opposition to the proposal among East Timor's politicians in Dili.
Presenter: Sara Everingham
Speakers:Arsenio Bano, vice president of East Timor's main opposition party Fretilin;Aderito Hugo da Costa, MP and member of the prime minister Xanana Gusmao's party; Jose Belo, editor of the east Timorese newspaper Tempo Semanal
Listen:Windows Media
SARA EVERINGHAM: More MPs in East Timor are voicing opposition to Julia Gillard's proposal.
Arsenio Bano is the vice president of East Timor's main opposition party Fretilin.
ARSENIO BANO: I don't believe that it is a, it is a good time. I think Timor should reject the proposal, simply because there is no condition in Timor to do that. Economic and social condition we are one of the poorest country in Indonesia.
SARA EVERINGHAM: If Australia was to give East Timor assistance in setting this up would it be possible to actually establish this centre in East Timor?
ARSENIO BANO: I don't think that's a problem with assisting. I think the question is whether Timor wants to be a processing centre or other, other type of Pacific Solution.
I don't think it is appropriate for Timor.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Aderito Hugo da Costa is an MP and member of the prime minister Xanana Gusmao's party.
ADERITO HUGO DA COSTA: Money is not the point, not the issue. The issue is how we have time to look at outside's problem rather than look at our own people's problem that is still very, very serious problems.
SARA EVERINGHAM: There's concern a processing centre for asylum seekers could even inflame social tensions in East Timor.
Arsenio Bano from the Fretilin opposition again.
ARSENIO BANO: We not establish any social welfare as other countries as Australia, even Indonesia. If we want to decide to accept any refugee in Timor we have to be able to offer a same level of services that we offer to our own people, so you can avoid discrimination, you can avoid other such as problems, racism and so on.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Julia Gillard discussed her proposal with East Timor's president Jose Ramos-Horta but she hasn't spoken with the prime minister Xanana Gusmao.
Jose Belo the editor of the east Timorese newspaper Tempo Semanal says that was a mistake.
JOSE BELO: They thought that the president is the one that is going to make the decision, it's wrong, it's actually their executive right of the government to make the decision.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Xanana Gusmao's likely to prove a tougher audience for Julia Gillard.
In recent months he's expressed discontent with Australia on a number of fronts and he's pushed to have gas from the Timor Sea piped to East Timor to be processed onshore has been frustrated.
The Australian company Woodside has opted for a platform floating at sea.
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